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But, something good did come from all the negative press. We did get a "voluntary" recall and most #35i owners should have had their replacements done. Since the recall I have noticed a lot less postings on HPFP failures. So that is a good sign. Time will tell of course, and it's a good thing we have a BMW extended warranty on the HPFP. |
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06-19-2011, 06:03 PM | #112 | |
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Hmmm...I'm not seeing these current/post recall pump failing posts. Please post a link to these numerous posts, I don't see them, especially the N55 failures. Last edited by RPM90; 06-19-2011 at 06:08 PM.. |
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Update 31k miles and still doing fine while running 16psi
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From what I understand.... BMW came out with a new pump design starting with March, 2010 production. The new HDP (hoch druck pump (nee.. HPFP, as we Americans call it...) is made by Conti. The old ones which had a high failure rate were made by Bosch. Most new replacement pumps are remanufactured from what I understand too.
IF your car was made before March, 2010 - you most likely have a Bosch pump. I am told (by my German tuner) that it is just a matter of WHEN and not IF it will fail. Since most N55 production started around March, 2010... they seem to be ok. There were some N55's built prior to March, starting in Dec, 2009 though - I think those were early production models though and maybe press cars. But the new Conti pumps seem to be holding up well and last even when the engine has mods. So... time will tell. Lets not panic here guys. Dackel |
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06-20-2011, 04:54 PM | #118 | |
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nice one. im at 22K no fuel pump problem - knock on wood. Ernie i'm catch'n up to ur miles.
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06-20-2011, 05:46 PM | #119 | |
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If we were talking N54's, the list of threads would be halfway to the moon. See my point? 2,000 fail and it's an epidemic. 2 or 3 fail and it's not. EDIT: the last two are N54 related, so go ahead scratch those off the list as they're off topic. Last edited by Brandon26pdx; 06-20-2011 at 06:00 PM.. |
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Damn, I better plan another road trip then...
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06-21-2011, 11:08 AM | #122 | |
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I'm starting to get a long crank here or there....
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06-24-2011, 09:43 PM | #125 | |
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Could it be one of the N55 cars that still had the old pump? Possibly. Second on page 15, doesn't show a second car with a failure, so I'm not sure why you listed it. Did I miss something? Third one we have NO idea if it was a pump failure or not. BTW, it too may have been an early build. Fourth one, no nothing about an N55 failure. The N54's got new pumps. Fifth one is another N54 failure with the old pump. They were replaced with a 446. I don't see where it says it was the newest pump that failed. So, there is 1 N55 HPFP failure, and that one may have been built with the older pump, maybe. If that owner would tell us what the failed pump number is it would be helpful. The only consistent thing on all those threads is your comments about how the HPFP problem persists even on a number of N55's, yet it's really only 1 for now. Much too early with too little failure rate to be so positive that even the N55 will have HPFP failures. You keep saying that no one knows the true number of failures, but you make it sound as if you do. I'm not ready to say that the newest pump is the absolute fix, more time and miles will tell us. But so far it's been doing fine in the N54, and with the N55 you've shown 1. Shouldn't be any sure, that would be ideal. However that one could have had the old pump, or it could simply be a failure and that's it. If an N55 AC compressor went out would you say it's an epidemic? At least lets wait until we get more failures before exclaiming that the sky is falling. Do you have any more posts to illustrate this ongoing high failure rate on the N55? |
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06-25-2011, 05:26 PM | #126 | |
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On a side note, today marks my 1 year anniversary with my baby. 31285 miles, about 28k of those with a tune. Over 100 runs down the 1/4 mile, redline daily, 100+ degrees, over 140mph on more than one occasion. Been to California and back, Vegas and back. I can see this car passing 100k with no problems. DEAL WITH IT.
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06-25-2011, 10:08 PM | #127 | |
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I'm not hating the messenger. I'm questioning the messengers data and claims. So far your claims are unfounded. If calling you to task is "hating", then that's your interpretive problem. Some people have claimed that an HPFP failure is somehow a "safety" problem. That's a stretch. Even all those complaints filed with the NHTSA, they have not decided to issue a "safety recall". Why do you suppose they have made that decision? You still haven't provided evidence of the supposed numerous N55 failures. Yet you keep making the claim. So what reality are we not dealing with exactly? People have demanded and asked BMW for a solution. They finally gave one and are still backing it with an extended warranty on the HPFP. The complaints have severely dropped, at least for now. |
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06-26-2011, 12:24 AM | #128 |
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As far as I can tell, the only "evidence" he's ever brought on the matter is a very brief jumble of forum threads, which have already been properly discounted and torn to shreds numerous times when put under scrutiny. (And we all know without question there would be piles of anecdotal evidence in forums like these if it were really some huge problem.) So then what he does, instead of posting NHTSA info or data which would actually pursue his position, is he makes it a personal thing by saying people are "hating the messenger" or some other nonsense in that vain. No, I think everyone here questions the content of the message more than anything due to lack of supporting evidence, so I'm sure we'd all really appreciate it if he'd put that toy back on the shelf.
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Was at a BMW event at their NA HQ and the question of fuel pumps came up with one of their technicians. The answer was that BMW originally saw a high failure rate with the first gen pumps and had to replace tens of thousands of pumps. The newest version which is in the N55s, the N54 "s" engines and in used to replace any failed pumps has only had a few failures (less than 5) to date. They felt that they had solved the problem.
Later someone else asked about breaking engine bolts and exploding S54 engines and a different BMW person shifted into corporate speak with "we don't know anything about that, and beside that's a technical question and we have no engineers here". I think the tech was being honest and the spokesperson was trying to steer clear of a whole new minefield.
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About a week ago started to get some long cranks upon start-up. Then a random "Service Requirement" (Car on lift) warning showed up, even though I am not due for service. I have 11,200 miles on my car. Might be my fuel pump or my Braille battery, who knows. Trying to get an appointment with the dealer to see what's up.
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