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      11-01-2010, 12:25 PM   #1
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How do you guys like this for winter wheel?

how do you guys like this Motegi Racing one for my winter setup on AW 2011 135i.

Size: 17x8
Offset: 45mm
Backspacing: 6.25"
Bolt Pattern: 5-120
Weight: 21.4lbs.
Finish: Black Painted
Construction: 1pc. Cast
Finish Warranty: 1 Year
Manufactured in China

Ill put 225/45-17 tires on them. Think theyll fit? Little afraid of paint peeling with black at this price point..

Here are others Im considering:

Moda MD10

Size: 17x7.5
Offset: 42mm
Backspacing: 5.90"
Bolt Pattern: 5-120
Rec. Tire Size: 205/50-17
Weight: 20.1lbs.
Finish: Machined w/Anthracite Accent
Construction: 1 Pc. Low Pressure Cast
Finish Warranty: 1 Year
Manufactured in China

Elbrus 102

Size: 17x7.5
Offset: +42mm
Backspacing: 5.94"
Bolt Pattern: 5-120
Weight: 23.0lbs.
Finish: Silver Machined w/Ice Coating
Construction: 1 Pc. High Pressure Casting
Finish Warranty: 3 Years
Manufactured in China

Verde Protocol

Size: 17x7
Offset: +40mm
Backspacing: 5.62"
Bolt Pattern: 5-120
Weight: 20.6lbs.
Finish: Machined w/Black Accent
Manufactured in China

Like any of em?
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Eh - just use the OEMs and buy nice wheels for the summer.
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Eh - just use the OEMs and buy nice wheels for the summer.
Dont really want to use 18" rims for winter use. I like the MSport rims and dont mind using them for non winter use.. Maybe Ill feel differently when I take delivery tomorrow.. Im leaning strongly toward the Elbrus 102 for winter use. I think they look best on the car according to the tire rack 'view on car' feature.
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Eh - just use the OEMs and buy nice wheels for the summer.
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I like my 261s too. But IMO if you're gonna get new wheels, get a good looking set. Not just a garbage set for slush and junk. If you want winter wheels, just get steels or the like.

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Sorry, forgot to answer...I like the Motegi the best and the Elbrus 2nd.

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Motegi FTW,
the wheel cap is ugly though,
and it's more chromy than the image you have.
You will need a set of spline nut lugs for these.
Waiting for my BMW black carbon wheel caps, should look nice.

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Those wheels look pretty solid, and fairly light weight for a 17x8 wheel. I'm considering them for my AW 135i that will most likely be delivered right in the middle of winter.
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Motegi FTW,
the wheel cap is ugly though,
and it's more chromy than the image you have.
You will need a set of spline nut lugs for these.
Waiting for my BMW black carbon wheel caps, should look nice.

They look pretty good. What size wheels/tires did you get? Maybe its an optical illusion, but it looks in the pic like the fronts are either flush, or sticking out slightly of the front wheel well? Im down to the Motegi and the Elbrus 102. Pictured on the car at tirerack, I think the Elbrus look the best... but the Motegi might be easier car with brake dust and all... Seems the required lug bolts are included, so thats a help.
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With a black wheel, you won't be worried about brake dust. It's the salt and sand that gets caked onto the wheels that shows. I run black Rota's on my WRX in the winter and they look terrible after a few weeks of driving. They're winter wheels though, they're supposed to look dirty
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Look at the elbrus 102 on the vehicle pic at tirerack.. I think they look the best, and by far, easiest to clean, although the Motegi are still in the running!
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Personally, for the 17"ers I like the ASA GT1 or the OZ Ultraleggera better then any of the ones listed, but you know what they say about opinions.
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Personally, I went with the Elbrus, mostly b/c they were the least-expensive wheel that I thought looked halfways-decent. YMMV.

The black-finish wheels go well with Alpine White, especially if you have the blackline grilles, too.
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Motegi because they have the least amount of open area. With a 5 star wheel there is a large area for snow and ice to get inside the wheel, freeze up, and throw off the balance when driving. With a winter wheel you really want at little open space as possible.
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They look pretty good. What size wheels/tires did you get? Maybe its an optical illusion, but it looks in the pic like the fronts are either flush, or sticking out slightly of the front wheel well? Im down to the Motegi and the Elbrus 102. Pictured on the car at tirerack, I think the Elbrus look the best... but the Motegi might be easier car with brake dust and all... Seems the required lug bolts are included, so thats a help.
Required lug bolt were not included with mine, but a good dealer will sell you them because they know you will need them. if not check search ebay for "128i spline bolt".
They are slightly more massive then the previous tire, even if the rims are smaller, it's slightly wider, but nothing of concern. These are the 17" rims, I don't know what size of tires, anything that fits...

I just received my wheel caps . Pictures coming after a little wash.
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Required lug bolt were not included with mine, but a good dealer will sell you them because they know you will need them. if not check search ebay for "128i spline bolt".
They are slightly more massive then the previous tire, even if the rims are smaller, it's slightly wider, but nothing of concern. These are the 17" rims, I don't know what size of tires, anything that fits...

I just received my wheel caps . Pictures coming after a little wash.
Thats strange.. I placed them in my tirerack car, and it says, included hardware at no extra charge are the 20 required lugbolts, the 4 required centering rings, and a lug installation tool!
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Thats strange.. I placed them in my tirerack car, and it says, included hardware at no extra charge are the 20 required lugbolts, the 4 required centering rings, and a lug installation tool!
I don't think Tritonx ordered from Tirerack if I remember his other thread about the wheels.

I ordered a set of the Motegi's with 215/45R17 Dunlop Winter Sport M3s and should receive them tomorrow at some point. I'll put up pics after I mount them up on Saturday. And I agree with Tritonx, the included centercaps look terrible, so I have to source some BMW ones that'll fit.
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I don't think Tritonx ordered from Tirerack if I remember his other thread about the wheels.

I ordered a set of the Motegi's with 215/45R17 Dunlop Winter Sport M3s and should receive them tomorrow at some point. I'll put up pics after I mount them up on Saturday. And I agree with Tritonx, the included centercaps look terrible, so I have to source some BMW ones that'll fit.
I wound up ordering the Elbrus 102s. In the pic on vehicle, they look alot like the stock 135i rims.. Simple stars are always a favorite of mine, not to mention their ease of cleaning from our prodigious brake dust. Tires I got were the Pirelli Winter sotozero 210 runflats in 225/45R17.
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I like my 261s too. But IMO if you're gonna get new wheels, get a good looking set. Not just a garbage set for slush and junk. If you want winter wheels, just get steels or the like.

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I have never been able to find a source of 17" steel wheels for winter use. Do you have a source for these?

I wound up getting cheap 17" alloys for winter tires. They get beat up by the salt, but they work. 18" snow tires on stock wheels would be a lot more expensive, destroy the stock wheels after a few winters, and the replacement summer wheels will be more expensive, too.
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I like my 261s too. But IMO if you're gonna get new wheels, get a good looking set. Not just a garbage set for slush and junk. If you want winter wheels, just get steels or the like.

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I have never been able to find a source of 17" steel wheels for winter use. Do you have a source for these?

I wound up getting cheap 17" alloys for winter tires. They get beat up by the salt, but they work. 18" snow tires on stock wheels would be a lot more expensive, destroy the stock wheels after a few winters, and the replacement summer wheels will be more expensive, too.
Yea, I found the same thing when I priced out tires. It was about 3 hundred bucks more for me to go with a squared 17" setup then to get tires for my 261Ms. The cost of dismounting and remounting tires twice a year would quickly negate any savings. Besides, since I already have summer rims with wider-than-stock PS2s on order, I'm going to throw some Star Specs on the 261Ms and use them as autox wheels.
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Thats strange.. I placed them in my tirerack car, and it says, included hardware at no extra charge are the 20 required lugbolts, the 4 required centering rings, and a lug installation tool!
I don't think Tritonx ordered from Tirerack if I remember his other thread about the wheels.

I ordered a set of the Motegi's with 215/45R17 Dunlop Winter Sport M3s and should receive them tomorrow at some point. I'll put up pics after I mount them up on Saturday. And I agree with Tritonx, the included centercaps look terrible, so I have to source some BMW ones that'll fit.

We're you able to find some BMW caps for your Motegi's?
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We're you able to find some BMW caps for your Motegi's?
The caps I had on my OEM wheels fitted perfectly, so you can use those. I ordered some custom caps that were supposed to be perfect fit for E36(they are the same than ours) but the vendor screwed up the description. Those I got are slightly smaller, I glue them with silicone, it's not too apparent. Got into an argument with the vendor because he said perfect fit for E36 but they were not. Is there 2 size of OEM wheel cap for E36?
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