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06-28-2015, 11:06 PM | #23 |
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ok. just read this thread only so forgive me if I'm asking dumb questions. what's the difference between this and jb4+back-end flashes? is this taking the place of both of those? so basically a cheap version of using Cobb. I know some N55 guys have to use Cobb to back-end flash. that screen shot of your phone looks like a not as nice version of the jb4 app. Is this just for the N55 crowd? I use the bb program and only had to buy a bt cable which I'm sure will come in handy in the future.
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the app is for n54. cables were <$40 and definitely handy to have for code reading and clearing at a minimum.
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06-29-2015, 07:46 AM | #27 | |
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MHD will let you do 2 things. Either you have a JB4 already, and then MHD will let you flash a "backend" map which will combine a flash tune specifically made for the JB4 with your JB4 for the best of both worlds. OR if for whatever (IMO FOOLISH!) reason you really don't want a JB4 and you are hell-bent on flash only tune, this will let you flash a tune made by Wedge to your car. So for those of you without the Jb4 the MHD will flash a Cobb style tune but WAY better. More power and $400 or so cheaper than the Cobb. |
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06-29-2015, 09:00 AM | #29 |
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Is BB and MHD names of products or names of businesses? The only mod I have is PPK1 and, at this time still under warranty, do not want to fool with any wiring installs.
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*********** flash vs MHD flash. Names of software.
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perhaps once someone can get a true dyno comparison done ppl can start debating if one map is better than another one confounding factor is that everyones car seems to be setup so differently. and in particular, the members to jump on these new offerings seem to already be running JB4, E85, or upgraded turbos, which makes it harder to evaluate all the options for someone stock all names of software products, no wiring installs like JB4. i no longer have warranty so i was less worried about detectability but i believe the option to flash back to stock ECU exists for both options
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06-29-2015, 11:58 AM | #32 | |
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06-29-2015, 01:24 PM | #34 | |
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06-29-2015, 02:21 PM | #36 | |
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people seem to get very passionate advocating different product options here - which i totally understand - i'm sure a lot of thought and consideration was put into the purchase decision process and there's only good intentions trying to help consumers have different priorities when purchasing, whether that be brand perception, pure technical performance/hard numbers, stress on existing components, financial costs, or ease of install, there are so many factors to take into consideration from a data/evidence-based perspective, i'd LOVE to see an apples-to-apples comparison. hopefully some data will start to flow in as more people start using these flashes.
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06-29-2015, 02:57 PM | #37 | |
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You need a laptop with at least an i5 processor, so add another $500. You also need to spend a good amount of time getting everything together, like tunerpro, bb flasher, the correct bin, read all the material, etc... and you STILL run the chance of screwing up your DME. Or you could buy a $40 android device, and a $20 cable, and $99 for the MHD android software, and bam - DONE! Literally plug and play. And for those who have android cell phones, I only had to buy the $20 cable and the flasher software. Try not to act like BB is cheaper, because most people do not have a capable laptop in this day and age, nor do they want to lug it around and f' with all the hassle with the aforementioned in setting it up. However, many have an android device of some sort. Quit trying to sell your JB4 to everyone in this thread; I thought you were happy with it? Btw, most of those who have MHD chunked the Jb4 because it was pointless to have both, that is, unless you are running meth or an upgrade set of turbos. Otherwise, it's a problematic POS. |
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06-29-2015, 03:45 PM | #38 | |
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06-29-2015, 04:09 PM | #39 |
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I actually just read the first couple of posts from your thread in 2013 about the open flash tablet. saying how you didn't like the jb4 g4. you acknowledge it's different than the g5. first you actually praise it. so why the hate towards it and anyone talking about it. it's come a long way since the g4. everyone should know all the options out there. no need to get pissy when someone talks about something you may not choose to install on your car. jb4 has been in my car, from g4 to g5 with backend, from ~280 to 405whp and delivers power when I want it. can't say enough good things about it.
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Wedge makes the stock MHD tunes. Wedge tunes on the COBB are better than the cobb tunes. This is from a jb4 user so you know I am playing no favorites since I don't want to limit myself to a flash only option and lose features, but if I had to I'd prefer the wedge tune via MHD hands down. |
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The G4 was not good at modulating boost. The OpenFlash tablet was, however, it did not perform well up top, so I got rid of it right about the time the G5 ISO was released. It was better, so yes, I praised it because it was the best option available. Now, MHD is the best option, so I praise it as well. The JB4 G5 is is the same as the G4, only with better boost control. Sure there are a bunch of little options that are scattered all over the most non user-friendly interface I have ever seen from a legit company, but none of them matter if you do not use METH or boost outside of 22psi. Not pissy at all, just annoyed by the all ad-nauseum in your posts here in this thread. Have you every tried a good flash tune? This thread is simply about that, not piggyback systems. My guess is you have not. |
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06-30-2015, 11:14 AM | #43 | |
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myself and another member were discussing what was included with MHD vs others and you go full bore PMS on me and tell me to stop trying to sell the JB4. What the hell is that? all i did was discuss something others already were and i even said i would try this alternative. your not making any sense. the conversations were coming to an end anyways and you think you have to put your non-informative statement in there. i'm starting to think you dont even read the entire posts. i listed many options the jb4 has that some people might find very valuable. You've wasted more of everyones time with your "I hate JB4 because I cant figure it out " ramblings than you should have. My car performs just as well as a flashed car. This is just getting stupid. i'm out.
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I went from Stage 2+ on COBB to a custom MHD Wedge Stage 2 tune and car pulls way harder and smoother shifting with better MPG somehow (by 0.8mpg). I'll have dyno numbers on Friday, stay 'tuned'
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