1M Production - Question: One Model Year or Two?

[technik330]

Hey All,

I was hoping someone would be able to confirm whether, or not, the 1M will have a 2 year model run, ie: '11/'12.

It's been beaten to death that the car will be produced for roughly 1 year beginning early in '11, correct me if I'm wrong, and ending in early '12.

If productionwill continue in to 2012, is it safe to assume that there'll be a 2012 1M?

I've read tons and tons on this forum, but I can't seem to find a solid answer to my question.

Any help is appreciated, thanks

-Chris

[ES BMW]

Production ends by the first quarter of 2012. So... Dec. 2011 will be the last month.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458226

[technik330]

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Thank you; I have no clue how I missed that -

[cbeebe72]

That post said production will end in the first quarter of 2012 which would mean possible production through March 2012. Otherwise production would only be about 9 months long.

Originally Posted by My E90

Production ends by the first quarter of 2012. So... Dec. 2011 will be the last month.

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458226

[MDORPHN]

Originally Posted by cbeebe72

That post said production will end in the first quarter of 2012 which would mean possible production through March 2012. Otherwise production would only be about 9 months long.

I believe that is right. Further, my understanding is that all of the 1Ms -- starting with those manufactured in 3/11 -- will be so-called model year 2012 cars.

Neil

[technik330]

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So,theoretically, all the 1Ms will be 2012 cars, or am I wrong?

[MDORPHN]

Originally Posted by technik330

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So,theoretically, all the 1Ms will be 2012 cars, or am I wrong?

As I said, all the 1Ms will be 2012 model year cars.

Neil

[technik330]

Originally Posted by MDORPHN

As I said, all the 1Ms will be 2012 model year cars.

Neil

Thank you; just seems kinda of odd that a car produced in March, sold in June would be a '12 model, but that's cool with me.

One thing I would like to know is how does this impact the LCI 1-series?

Is 2012 the last year of the 1 series, for this chassis?

[KingOfJericho]

Has BMW ever made a car for one year? I can't think of a single car they've made for a single year as it makes no sense financially. I think it will be like the E46 M3 where they kept the production going while building E90s for a year.

[MDORPHN]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

Has BMW ever made a car for one year? I can't think of a single car they've made for a single year as it makes no sense financially. I think it will be like the E46 M3 where they kept the production going while building E90s for a year.

Yes, there have been lots of models that were available only for one year. The 1995 E36 M3 Lightweight readily comes to mind.

Neil

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by MDORPHN

Yes, there have been lots of models that were available only for one year. The 1995 E36 M3 Lightweight readily comes to mind.

Neil

That's a version... not a model.. The E36 M3 was made for several years. (per wikipedia, production began February 1994 and sedan production ended in December, 1997; the coupé ceased production in late 1998; and the Cabriolet in December, 1999.[2]

There have been many limited production versions that are of course just built in one year. One of the longest productions runs was US spec 1995 E36 M3 prooduction right? It carried over longer when the OBD-II standard came out and therefore was produced from early 1994 thru 1995 as a single year.. the 1995.

Just found this.. http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=14#2


Production Versions

BF91: European-spec S50 B30 coupe (LHD), 03/92 through 07/95
BF92: European-spec S50 B30 coupe (RHD), 03/93 through 07/95
BF99: European-spec S50 B30 GT coupe (LHD), 02/95 through 06/95
BF98: South African-spec S50 B30 coupe (RHD), 09/93 through 05/94
BF93: U.S.-spec S50 B30 USA coupe manual (LHD), 03/94 through 12/95
BF03: U.S.-spec S50 B30 USA coupe automatic (LHD), 12/94 through 01/96
CB91: European-spec S50 B30 sedan (LHD), 09/94 through 07/95
CB92: European-spec S50 B30 sedan (RHD), 12/94 through 07/95
BJ91: European-spec S50 B30 convertible (LHD), 03/94 through 08/95
BJ92: European-spec S50 B30 convertble (RHD), 09/94 through 08/95



I agree that I think next year's March to June 1M models will be badged as 2012... and it certainly is very possible that BMW could produce as many as needed, while keeping a single production year...

[KingOfJericho]

But that was a stripped down version of a current production model with little more than omitting several pieces in order to make the new model. This is entirely different as it has several different body panels, exhaust, etc.

[cbeebe72]

Originally Posted by technik330

Thank you; just seems kinda of odd that a car produced in March, sold in June would be a '12 model, but that's cool with me.

When I ordered my 1997 Trans Am, I placed the order in May and got it in September of 1996.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by cbeebe72

When I ordered my 1997 Trans Am, I placed the order in May and got it in September of 1996.

The manufacturer can declare the model year to begain at any point in the year. Typically new year production is in September/October (in the US at least)... however manufactures can decide on making the model year change whenever they like, and typically there is wide variance in beginning sale dates of a brand new model.

So the 1M could come out in January thru December 2011 and still be called a 2012 model. The only thing that can't happen is that two different year models be produced over the same time frame. So there can't be say.. a 2012 1M and also a 2013 1M produced in the same time frame.

[1MKW]

In the United States, government regulations allow cars of a given model year designation to be sold starting on January 2 of the previous calendar year, so a manufacturer can sell start selling , say, a model year 2012 car starting on Jan 2 , 2011 if they so chose.
Of course, most model year changeovers in the US occur later than that : late summer, typically.

[Wraith]

In Australia MY or model years of cars are usually placed from 1st July till the end of June, so if this were to happen to 1M's they'd be MY 2012 if landed after the 1st of July 2011...

If some were to arrive between March - end June 2011, they'd be classed as MY 2011, but from above speculations as to what exactly BMW will do with these, what I've stated above may or may not be the case.

We'll have to wait and see...

[Alpine*]

Dare I say, Who cares?

Am I missing something here? They are starting Prod in March 2011 and building say 2800 cars....... who cares what the MY is

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by AlpineM3E92

Dare I say, Who cares?

Am I missing something here? They are starting Prod in March 2011 and building say 2800 cars....... who cares what the MY is

For one, resale values...ie. for what it's worth to anyone, if I were set on a 1M I'd definitely look at getting a MY'12.

MY'12 would in future be worth more than a MY'11.

This is especially so if the production year were to be 2012 vs 2011, dealer/s trade in values especially look at this point on vehicles traded in or over...

[GeeRam]

Originally Posted by Wraith

For one, resale values...ie. for what it's worth to anyone, if I were set on a 1M I'd definitely look at getting a MY'12.

MY'12 would in future be worth more than a MY'11.

This is especially so if the production year were to be 2012 vs 2011, dealer/s trade in values especially look at this point on vehicles traded in or over...

As said there won't be a 2011MY 1M.

The 1M gets the new light clusters etc., that all the new facelifted 1er's get from 2012MY which starts at end of first quarter 2011....so, that's why all 1M's will be 2012MY.

[technik330]

What I should've asked at the begining of this thread is whether or not the 1 series will end production in 2012, or not.

If the 1 series is just recieving its LCI updates, don't they normally stick around for a model year, or two?

Going further, if the LCI is released as a '12 model; wouldn't that mean we should expect to see the end of 1 series production in '12, or '13?

[technik330]

Originally Posted by AlpineM3E92

Dare I say, Who cares?

Am I missing something here? They are starting Prod in March 2011 and building say 2800 cars....... who cares what the MY is

The reasoning behind caring is subjective. Some people just want to have the car now and others like to have the last year.

I, personally, would like to be able to have the last year of production of the 1M.

To exemplify, we'll use my '00 Honda Civic Si. The car was built from '99-'00; there was zero changes to the car in '00, but it was the last year it was produced; I would value the last year of the 1M just the same.

If it boils down to the car having one MY only, that's fine, I'll be in line just the same.

[ES BMW]

Getting back to the production time frame - when Scott said "production ends for the 1M by the first quarter of 2012", wouldn't that mean that it will end at the beginning of Q1 2012? It's like saying that production will stop at the end of Q4 2011. No?