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Possibly a failed charge pipe, what else?
Hi guys. I had my '11 135i at the track this afternoon and after about 15 minutes of hard driving there was a pop and the exhaust note got louder/deeper and the SES light went on. Also the power is reduced.
I'm getting codes P2C57, P2774 and P2906 which seem to indicate the charge pipe. So does anyone have suggestions which one to get, and also what else makes sense to change while I'm doing that - for example does anything need to be removed or is easier to access once the charge pipe is out? Also I was reading that the N55 does not need a blow off valve, why is that?
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Firstly, thanks for doing some research and not just going "OMG MY ENGINE BLEW" lol.
There's a ton of options for charge pipes out there and essentially as long as you get one that's metal and decently built you'll be fine. They don't make much of a difference between them unless you need meth bungs/BOV (you don't need a BOV since you have N55). I use the cp-e N55 CP, it cost me $125 used and has been totally fine.
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Thanks! Here is my list of what's available, hopefully this is helpful to others.
The ARM and VRSF ones have attractive pricing and honestly look very similar, so I wonder if they come from the same Chinese factory? VRSF seems to have pretty good feedback from forum members. Trying to avoid spending nearly $300 on the ER one unless it's significantly better. http://www.burgertuning.com/chargepi...5_N54_BMW.html $239 http://www.evolutionracewerks.com/node/190 $275 http://www.extremeturbosystems.com/E...arge-Pipe.html $229 https://www.armmotorsports.com/135-N...-t-135-n55.htm $135 http://www.vr-speed.com/vrsf-chargep...i-n54-n55.html $179 https://www.cobbtuning.com/products/...SABEgJSlfD_BwE $195 https://store.activeautowerke.com/pr...55-charge-pipe $249
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When I was shopping for a CP for my N54 on my post some said that some the Chinese CP had fitting issues so I went with BMS CP to skip the BS. Fit was great, decently priced and happy ever since.
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Then again, many have spoken highly about the Phoenix Racing charge pipe for $129. I got mine from Top Gear, who drop shipped from directly from BMS. I'm N54, but fit & finish was good and install was as anticipated.
Personal preference, and many other parts I wouldn't consider this route, but for a charge pipe the PR version was just right...
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Some have replaced the plastic elbow pipe coming from inter cooler to charge pipe but based on what I have read, that part has a low failure rate under mild to moderate tuning so most people skip it. Knowing that your plans are to track the car, I would consider changing it if it was me.
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Thanks for all the advise. I went with a VRSF charge pipe. Install was pretty straightforward. Took it on the track today and didnt blow anything so thats a plus.
Question- did anyone else notice a decrease in low end power after installing the charge pipe? I'm wondering if its just in my head or if there is less power in the low rpms. Also the power doesnt seem as linear, almost as if there is a "dead spot" towards 2.5k rpms. Maybe im crazy or maybe it's something else?
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