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04-20-2010, 06:04 PM | #1 |
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Cool Carbon Brake Pad Set
Hiya Fellow 1ers,
I've read the post on here from a few days ago in regards to brake dust on alloys. I'm really not a fan of having to clean my wheels all the time. I use my own product which works a treat but I have been doing some research into how to prevent it in the 1st place. What I have come across is Cool Carbon Brake Pads, they seem to reduce brake dust quite noticeable. But before I take the $275US (incl. delivery) plunger I wanna hear if any other 1ers in Australia have tried these or know of someone running the set. Love to hear feedback and if anyone wants to jump on my order the guys I've been dealing with seem pretty reliable (Auto Individual). |
04-20-2010, 06:30 PM | #2 |
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just to not answer your question directly, i switched to a low dust semi ceramic Hawk pad and they work really well, however, you still get dust just not as much. they are available in Australia for similar or less money fitted. they brake hard too.
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I just installed a set of cool carbon pads this weekend. I have about 500 mi on them so far, and they are great! I have definitely noticed a decrease in brake dust. I haven't gotten to test their fading and performance benefits yet, so I can't comment on that...but they are actually better driving than the stock set. My OEM pads squealed all of the time, and these are very quiet so far. They are also much more linear and less grabby than stock, so I find it more predictable and easy to drive on the street. Also, when you look at the pad, they are shaped and contain all backing plates/shims just like the oem, and they really seem like a quality piece!
In short, I really like the pads so far, and while improving the dust, they also drive great. I've heard tons of praise for their actual performance, so hopefully they do that as well. Tim
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04-21-2010, 06:47 PM | #4 |
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I just worry about other pads with the brittle ceramic cap on the piston.
It was proven easy to crack under heat, brought on easier with a high temp pad.
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pad temp of over 400 degree is very easy to achieve in Australia in a non competitive track days. Just 10 laps at Sandown WAY has cracked his pistons. It is a modified pad alright but it is made to fit perfectly. I am not sure but shim is there too - don't know if that makes the difference.
You may be right. And I hope you are right. I just don't want to spend $5K to find out.
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Also, the actual amount of heat getting intot he piston is more depednant on driving style than actual pads used. The heat is set by the amount of braking done to the car (converting kinetic energy to heat). The difference between race pads and street pads is that street pads will fade at higher temps (losing friction properties), and race pads continue to work at high temps. So you have chance of damaging pistons with race pads, but that is only because you would have given up driving hard with the street pads as they would have stopped working.... but race pads driven in the same way as street pads will have no more heat than street pads. Also, the shims/plates will prevent heat from getting from the pad to the piston. I personally prefer to run no shims in my race car, as it reduces sponginess in the pedal and reduces pedal travel, but only if the caliper/piston is up to the extra heat it will get by removing them. I believe they are put there in cars normally to reduce squealing. Adrian |
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My ceramic piston inserts cracked, the whole calipers turned brown and the enamel began to flake off. Caveat: I brake only when I can see the whites of God's eyes. |
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Maybe it will make a difference for the OP, whether or not he/she will be attending auto-x, HPDE, or racing events where this possibility of damaging the brakes is more important. If not, I think there would be much less the chance of a problem with any properly fitting street or S/T pad, but I guess there is always a chance. Tim
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