Electronic or pneumatic wastegate? 2012 E82

NORAGRETS · 08-17-2017, 07:12 PM

I searched yes, but can't find a definitive answer...I'm a 2012 N55 135i...April 2012 build date...do I have an electronic or pneumatic wastegate? Im doing turbo upgrade in next few weeks...just starting to do my HW. Help appreciated thx

OTN55 · 08-17-2017, 07:33 PM

you have a pneumatic wastegate mate, electronic started on later f chassis

NORAGRETS · 08-17-2017, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OTN55

you have a pneumatic wastegate mate, electronic started on later f chassis

You the man!

NORAGRETS · 08-17-2017, 07:38 PM

Leads me to my next ?....who recommends what for turbo upgrades? Stage "2" and what supporting parts/tunes/suggestions feedback if any?

ShocknAwe · 08-18-2017, 10:24 AM

On the N55? Go Pure and don't look back.

Stage 1 vs 2 is dictated by your power goals. Stage 1 will put you in the FBO N54 power ballpark (400-450). Stage 2 will put you in the 500-550 whp range.

NORAGRETS · 08-18-2017, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

On the N55? Go Pure and don't look back.

Stage 1 vs 2 is dictated by your power goals. Stage 1 will put you in the FBO N54 power ballpark (400-450). Stage 2 will put you in the 500-550 whp range.

Thank you my friend. What are the recommended supporting mods? I have FMIC, charge pipe from AA, catless cat-back exhaust, and other goodies in my signature...do I need to do injectors? Fuel pump upgrade? Oil cooler upgrade? Anything?

ShocknAwe · 08-18-2017, 11:44 AM

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Thank you my friend. What are the recommended supporting mods? I have FMIC, charge pipe from AA, catless cat-back exhaust, and other goodies in my signature...do I need to do injectors? Fuel pump upgrade? Oil cooler upgrade? Anything?

I'd probably do a stg2/walbro 450 lpfp from fuelit or precision raceworks. Spark plug gap will be important too.

NORAGRETS · 08-18-2017, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Twhill19

Thank you my friend. What are the recommended supporting mods? I have FMIC, charge pipe from AA, catless cat-back exhaust, and other goodies in my signature...do I need to do injectors? Fuel pump upgrade? Oil cooler upgrade? Anything?

I'd probably do a stg2/walbro 450 lpfp from fuelit or precision raceworks. Spark plug gap will be important too.

Anything else you can think of? I'm doing a lot of maintenance work soon, gaskets and related hardware, going to add the turbo and some other hoodies while I'm at it, any additional info appreciated

ShocknAwe · 08-18-2017, 04:11 PM

Vacuum lines, check for boost leaks. Change your trans fluid. If you're an auto, a trams cooler could be a good idea, if manual, be prepared for clutch work. Get the pure inlet pipe. Not an expert on the N55 by any means. Maybe someone else will chime in

NORAGRETS · 08-18-2017, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Vacuum lines, check for boost leaks. Change your trans fluid. If you're an auto, a trams cooler could be a good idea, if manual, be prepared for clutch work. Get the pure inlet pipe. Not an expert on the N55 by any means. Maybe someone else will chime in

Planning on a new clutch and possibly a diff, true LSD wavetrac

BoosTonian · 08-20-2017, 05:42 AM

Do the diverter valve. Much easier to install on the turbo while it's out of the car versus in it.

FrostyDC4 · 08-20-2017, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

On the N55? Go Pure and don't look back.

Stage 1 vs 2 is dictated by your power goals. Stage 1 will put you in the FBO N54 power ballpark (400-450). Stage 2 will put you in the 500-550 whp range.

500+whp on ACN91 and/or 93?

ShocknAwe · 08-20-2017, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FrostyDC4

500+whp on ACN91 and/or 93?

Definitely nothing short of an E85 mixture. The only way I know of to get 500+ safely on 93 is with big twins (N54) or a single turbo conversion on either engine.

NORAGRETS · 08-24-2017, 03:32 PM

dumb question...do i need a tune for a upgraded turbo?

mike@x-ph.com · 08-25-2017, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Twhill19

dumb question...do i need a tune for a upgraded turbo?

You do

Wolfie1 · 08-30-2017, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

You do

Sorry for bringing up an old thread but I am doing the stage 2 turbo upgrade from pure turbo. I am getting the turbo, and the fuel -it lpfl.

My biggest question is on the tune. I current have the Cobb accessport and I am wondering if I should stack it with the JB4 (I read somewhere on here that someone has a map for this stack?)

But Im also entertaining the idea of having a Cobb tuner just do a dyno-tune for it. I can get a really good price from one of cobbs "platinum" tuners.

Thoughts???

mike@x-ph.com · 08-30-2017, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Wolfie1

Sorry for bringing up an old thread but I am doing the stage 2 turbo upgrade from pure turbo. I am getting the turbo, and the fuel -it lpfl.

My biggest question is on the tune. I current have the Cobb accessport and I am wondering if I should stack it with the JB4 (I read somewhere on here that someone has a map for this stack?)

But Im also entertaining the idea of having a Cobb tuner just do a dyno-tune for it. I can get a really good price from one of cobbs "platinum" tuners.

Thoughts???

Jb4 + Flash tune will get you best results

Wolfie1 · 08-30-2017, 10:52 PM

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Jb4 + Flash tune will get you best results

Gotcha. Which I am assuming means I can still do the Dyno tune with the JB4 at some point? 👌🏻

mike@x-ph.com · 08-30-2017, 10:53 PM

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Gotcha. Which I am assuming means I can still do the Dyno tune with the JB4 at some point? 👌🏻

You can do a dyno tune with any type of mods, yes.

Wolfie1 · 08-30-2017, 11:10 PM

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You can do a dyno tune with any type of mods, yes.

Sweet!! Thanks for the info!!

Wolfie1 · 09-10-2017, 09:16 AM

Hey guys one more question. So there is no BEF for stacking Cobb and JB4 for my car's DME. is it possible for me to run the new turbo with just the JB4 while I wait for the MHD tune?? Should only be a few days I believe.

Also, I can't seem to find online where to get the tune? I'm buying a tablet and cable from a friend. And then I saw i need to contact wedge?? Couldn't find wedge in google. Maybe I'm being an idiot and missing it lol

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