Full-sized spare?

jkp1187 · 10-21-2008, 10:19 AM

Question for Gill (or anyone who has some intelligent thoughts on the matter.)

1.) Let's say I wanted to purchase a tire-wheel combo to act as a full-sized spare to go along with the staggered 18" wheel pattern with the 135i. Should I get one to match the size of the rear wheels (245/35-18), the front wheels (215/40-18), or some compromise size in between? (Keeping in mind that this would be for a dedicated spare tire, and would only be used in the interim while a flat was being fixed.)

2.) Same question, except with 128i+sport package (205/50-17, 225/45-17).

(Yes, yes, I know the car comes with run-flats, but eventually they'll wear out, and I will likely replace them with non-run-flats.)

wtiger127 · 10-21-2008, 11:38 AM

I would go with the lower size.

EspressoBoy · 10-21-2008, 11:47 AM

Maybe before those runflats are totally worn out, buy new rims, and keep them as the full size spare. Then when a tire blows, just order a replacement from Gill.

1 Problem with our 135i Sport staggered 18" is adding a "new" tire to replace the blown tire. We almost have to replace both tires.

If you blow a back tire, you replace both back tires for even wear and a good ride. Same with front. That's what I have read so far.

So those of us who have tire insurance, that is an issue. The other issue I am not clear on is this;

Say I have purchased 4 x Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 17" tire and rims from tirerack. I get a blowout and even the rim is toast. I go to BMW dealership and they replace it.... but with what? They do not carry Blizzak and they certainly do not have a match for my rim.

I wonder what the dealership with do to me??? They promised me that I am covered... LOL but I am guessing again sales does not match service... hmmm

EspressoBoy

wtiger127 · 10-21-2008, 12:02 PM

Dealer agreement with tire&rim purchase saids they ONLY cover winter tires for the first year and ONLY the rim & tire purchased at the dealership. External rim & tires, as some other posting put it... you are (TIM-YOYO).

EspressoBoy · 10-21-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wtiger127

Dealer agreement with tire&rim purchase saids they ONLY cover winter tires for the first year and ONLY the rim & tire purchased at the dealership. External rim & tires, as some other posting put it... you are (TIM-YOYO).

I didn't get BMW tire insurance, my dealership offered me a 5 year insurance from another company, for these very reasons.

EspressoBoy

wtiger127 · 10-21-2008, 12:46 PM

Oh, which company? I found one from another BMW dealership in the US, but they didn't offer their insurance to Canadian Customers.

ptack · 10-21-2008, 12:59 PM

Unless you happen to have a spare wheel and absolutely have to save money, I would forget the full size spare and get a donut (LeatherZ). Even that will eat up space in the trunk, but a lot less than a full size spare.

mikeo · 10-21-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EspressoBoy

... I wonder what the dealership with do to me??? They promised me that I am covered... LOL but I am guessing again sales does not match service... hmmm

EspressoBoy

Better have Yoda in your trunk when you go to the dealer with that problem. The dealerships have a special room where they take problem owners for "re-education". :wink:

Gary@TireRack · 10-21-2008, 01:14 PM

For a full size spare I would use the front tire size. Either would be OK since the overall diameter is what you're trying to match.

That said, I wouldn't spend more for the rear to serve the same purpose.

Gill

pkcormier · 10-21-2008, 01:27 PM

I had the same dilemma with my track wheel/tire setup. I bought a used donut spare from Bavarian used parts (www.usedbmwparts.com) for $75. LeatherZ wants $245. And actually, it was just old, not used. Came with a 6-month guarantee. But remember, a spare won't do you any good without a jack and tire iron, which as you know the 135i does not have.

looking · 10-22-2008, 02:05 AM

^^^

how did you find a donut spare that fits over the 135 brakes?

brokemywallet · 10-22-2008, 11:29 AM

i was thumbing through their site and encountered e90 clear headlights, but then i saw the date posted......2006

CLICK

EspressoBoy · 10-22-2008, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeo

Better have Yoda in your trunk when you go to the dealer with that problem. The dealerships have a special room where they take problem owners for "re-education". :wink:

No I plan to let Yoda drive, and I will hide in the trunk. This is what happens when I tried the Jedi Mind Trick...

EspressoBoy

PS
sorry pooch...

Redbeemer · 10-22-2008, 03:15 PM

My previous 330ci had the staggered front/rear sizes and the factory spare which was full-sized was the same as the front wheel/tire. So Gil's suggestion above corresponds to what the factory used to do in the good old days before runflats!

pkcormier · 10-22-2008, 05:21 PM

The old donut spare I purchased from Bavarian fits easily. It is a steel 17" wheel with +30 offset. Those donuts were built in mass qty's to fit just about any BMW wheel/car combo.

10-21-2008, 10:19 AM	#1
jkp1187 Unindicted co-conspirator 67 Rep 1,734 Posts Drives: to work, mostly. Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania / Detroit, Michigan iTrader: (0)	Full-sized spare? Question for Gill (or anyone who has some intelligent thoughts on the matter.) 1.) Let's say I wanted to purchase a tire-wheel combo to act as a full-sized spare to go along with the staggered 18" wheel pattern with the 135i. Should I get one to match the size of the rear wheels (245/35-18), the front wheels (215/40-18), or some compromise size in between? (Keeping in mind that this would be for a dedicated spare tire, and would only be used in the interim while a flat was being fixed.) 2.) Same question, except with 128i+sport package (205/50-17, 225/45-17). (Yes, yes, I know the car comes with run-flats, but eventually they'll wear out, and I will likely replace them with non-run-flats.)
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wtiger127 Private First Class 12 Rep 198 Posts Drives: 128i VERT A/W Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North York iTrader: (0)	I would go with the lower size. __________________ 1.28i CAB Alpine White / Toupe Leather / Prem Pkg / Snd Pkg / Sport Pkg / USB / iPod Recommended Reading 08/08/08 Summer (In-Service-start) (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14493) Winter Shoes -AW (Vert) (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19947) The Winter 128i/135iCAB for Canadians (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19738) 1000+ Miles on new winters across the US (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19948)
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10-21-2008, 11:47 AM	#3
EspressoBoy 1addict, and proud 41 Rep 1,019 Posts Drives: BMW 135i 08 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	Maybe before those runflats are totally worn out, buy new rims, and keep them as the full size spare. Then when a tire blows, just order a replacement from Gill. 1 Problem with our 135i Sport staggered 18" is adding a "new" tire to replace the blown tire. We almost have to replace both tires. If you blow a back tire, you replace both back tires for even wear and a good ride. Same with front. That's what I have read so far. So those of us who have tire insurance, that is an issue. The other issue I am not clear on is this; Say I have purchased 4 x Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22 17" tire and rims from tirerack. I get a blowout and even the rim is toast. I go to BMW dealership and they replace it.... but with what? They do not carry Blizzak and they certainly do not have a match for my rim. I wonder what the dealership with do to me??? They promised me that I am covered... LOL but I am guessing again sales does not match service... hmmm EspressoBoy
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10-21-2008, 12:02 PM	#4
wtiger127 Private First Class 12 Rep 198 Posts Drives: 128i VERT A/W Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North York iTrader: (0)	Dealer agreement with tire&rim purchase saids they ONLY cover winter tires for the first year and ONLY the rim & tire purchased at the dealership. External rim & tires, as some other posting put it... you are (TIM-YOYO). __________________ 1.28i CAB Alpine White / Toupe Leather / Prem Pkg / Snd Pkg / Sport Pkg / USB / iPod Recommended Reading 08/08/08 Summer (In-Service-start) (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14493) Winter Shoes -AW (Vert) (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19947) The Winter 128i/135iCAB for Canadians (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19738) 1000+ Miles on new winters across the US (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19948)
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10-21-2008, 12:46 PM	#6
wtiger127 Private First Class 12 Rep 198 Posts Drives: 128i VERT A/W Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: North York iTrader: (0)	Oh, which company? I found one from another BMW dealership in the US, but they didn't offer their insurance to Canadian Customers. __________________ 1.28i CAB Alpine White / Toupe Leather / Prem Pkg / Snd Pkg / Sport Pkg / USB / iPod Recommended Reading 08/08/08 Summer (In-Service-start) (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14493) Winter Shoes -AW (Vert) (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19947) The Winter 128i/135iCAB for Canadians (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19738) 1000+ Miles on new winters across the US (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19948)
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10-21-2008, 12:59 PM	#7
ptack Brigadier General 303 Rep 4,479 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: May 2008 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 135i [6.50]	Unless you happen to have a spare wheel and absolutely have to save money, I would forget the full size spare and get a donut (LeatherZ). Even that will eat up space in the trunk, but a lot less than a full size spare. __________________ 135i, SGM, Coral, Sport Package, Auto, Premium Hifi, USB/ipod, Apex EC-7s, PPK Stage II
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10-21-2008, 01:14 PM	#9
Gary@TireRack Moderator 372 Rep 4,742 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	For a full size spare I would use the front tire size. Either would be OK since the overall diameter is what you're trying to match. That said, I wouldn't spend more for the rear to serve the same purpose. Gill __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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10-21-2008, 01:27 PM	#10
pkcormier Private First Class 16 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	I had the same dilemma with my track wheel/tire setup. I bought a used donut spare from Bavarian used parts (www.usedbmwparts.com) for $75. LeatherZ wants $245. And actually, it was just old, not used. Came with a 6-month guarantee. But remember, a spare won't do you any good without a jack and tire iron, which as you know the 135i does not have.
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10-22-2008, 02:05 AM	#11
looking Captain 43 Rep 602 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GTA iTrader: (0)	^^^ how did you find a donut spare that fits over the 135 brakes?
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10-22-2008, 11:29 AM	#12
brokemywallet Slaveaholic 17 Rep 707 Posts Drives: 2006 330I Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: So. Cal iTrader: (6)	i was thumbing through their site and encountered e90 clear headlights, but then i saw the date posted......2006 CLICK
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10-22-2008, 03:15 PM	#14
Redbeemer Ne Plus Ultra 88 Rep 264 Posts Drives: Portimao Blue 2022 M240iXdrive Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: San Antonio, Texas iTrader: (0)	My previous 330ci had the staggered front/rear sizes and the factory spare which was full-sized was the same as the front wheel/tire. So Gil's suggestion above corresponds to what the factory used to do in the good old days before runflats!
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10-22-2008, 05:21 PM	#15
pkcormier Private First Class 16 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	The old donut spare I purchased from Bavarian fits easily. It is a steel 17" wheel with +30 offset. Those donuts were built in mass qty's to fit just about any BMW wheel/car combo.
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