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| 11-04-2009, 08:31 AM | #1 | |
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As reported on 1addicts homepage.
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NEWEST INFO AS OF DECEMBER 7, 2009 http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/24...he_bmw_m1.html Return of the BMW M1 The BMW M1 name returns, but will it appear on a hot 1-series or a new supercar? BMW has confirmed it is to build an M1 – although the badge could be worn by one of two models currently under development. First up is a baby M-car, but many within BMW would love the name to appear on the rump of an Mercedes SLS AMG-rivalling supercar instead. M Division’s priority is a sub-M3 model based on the 1-series and using a heavily-tweaked version of the 135i’s twin-turbo straight-six producing around 400bhp and 370lb ft of torque. This will be mated to the new seven-speed double-clutch gearbox and is likely to drive the rear wheels through the M3’s trick differential. Well-placed BMW sources predict that other M-car features are likely, including the M3’s complete suspension, while to further boost its cred the engineers are working to remove 70kg from the 135i’s pudgy 1485kg kerb weight. Visually, expect the little M to be closely based on the Tii concept car BMW displayed at the 2007 Tokyo motor show, with enlarged front air intakes and a less subtle bootlid lip. Expect the new model to go on sale as soon as early 2011. As for the price, our source added: ‘If you look at M3 and 135i, there’s a lot of space for pricing. We’re thinking about half way between them.’ The trickiest decision could be on the name, though. We understand that BMW’s ‘old guard’ have problems with a 1-series wearing the M1 badge because of the original they developed in the 1970s. They would prefer the name to be held back until the arrival of a latter-day replacement for the 1978 mid-engined supercar, and that’s a project that M Division is now actively working on. See the M1 Homage concept here. In a sharp departure from the past, it is believed that this new supercar, due in late 2012, will use both electric and high-revving petrol motors to achieve sub-4sec 0-60mph performance. The drivetrain is said to take lessons from the Vision EfficientDynamics hybrid (above) revealed at this year’s Frankfurt motor show, mating BMW’s twin-turbo 4.4-litre V8 with twin electric motors. The new car would use this system to provide added boost at low rpm before swinging across to petrol power at higher revs, much like the X6 ActiveHybrid does. ‘M Division should have its own supercar built in three years,’ a senior BMW source said, ‘but we need to sell some cars first. That’s why the 1-series M-car is the higher priority.’
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| 11-04-2009, 09:00 AM | #3 |
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I would love to see a 1-series version of the M car. That should sell very well for the brand and would be a blast to drive and mod.
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| 11-04-2009, 09:05 AM | #4 |
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i bet this car will be FIERCE at autocross! let the saving begin
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| 11-04-2009, 09:13 AM | #5 |
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Highly doubt they'll revive the M1 moniker.
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| 11-04-2009, 09:24 AM | #7 |
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| 11-04-2009, 09:39 AM | #9 |
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Guessing they'll call it the 1XX ///M like the SUVs are called now. As others have said, not the M1.
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| 11-04-2009, 09:42 AM | #10 |
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Id be in for this... just please get rid of the big eye headlights. I love the car as it is now too but the headlights takes some getting used to. I only have one wish for the M 1series. That they make it with the original e30 M3 in mind. Slight widebody, light and aggresive.
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| 11-04-2009, 09:47 AM | #11 |
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I love the ///M3, but I want 550hp ///M5
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so no z4 M, hello ///M1?
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| 11-04-2009, 09:59 AM | #14 |
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| 11-04-2009, 10:11 AM | #16 |
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agree too!
they wont call it an M1 they'll have to use something else |
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| 11-04-2009, 10:14 AM | #17 |
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I heard the z4M is dead... and that they were considering taking the moniker from it and calling this new car the "M Coupe" instead.
Besides with a loaded Z4 just a few tiks under $70,000 a Z4M would have to be 80,000+ which is way too damn much money for that car. I'b buy a 911 before I'd spend that much on a Z4. |
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| 11-04-2009, 10:32 AM | #18 |
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Very likely it will be a 4 cylinder turbo. I'm excited. A lighter, more powerful 1 coupe can't be a bad thing.
Not likely till 2014 though.... http://www.motortrend.com/features/a...ies/index.html
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| 11-04-2009, 10:53 AM | #21 |
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I would be interested to see how they can market a already smaller/lighter coupe (135), and then make it quicker and maybe more track ready, and run it up with the current M3.
Volkswagen had this problem a while ago with their GTI's; there was a 1.8 turbo and a small NA 6cyl. Very close in almost every way - was a big price difference for the vr6 engine. But with a chip, the 1.8t was faster. Hope this wont hurt the M3 sales. But def a "M1" would be kick ass!
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| 11-04-2009, 10:54 AM | #22 |
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Is there a car out there with 4cylinder and turbo(s) beyond 300 hp 300 tq ? if they make it less powerful, it would be a pointless car. Unless this engine will have super big displacement...
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